Ben Galore
Jan 25, 2022
AC21 or EAD
I'm a bit confused about the rules concerning the AC21 porting. Situation: E2 visa holder, i140/485 pending for more than 180 days , EAD pending too. My lawyer says that in the event I need to change company (my company can be acquired by an other one, or just job switching) I can use the AC21 instead of the EAD. it does not seem to be a problem for them that the E2 visa won't be relevant anymore as long as it was active at the moment I use the portability. does that makes sense?
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The FredJan 25, 2022
I do believe you will need the EAD; a pending I-485 “only” provides lawful immigration status.
But, a reasonable immigration lawyer should certainly know all of this!
Ben GaloreJan 25, 2022
I do believe also but my lawyers seems ok with the AC21 only ... thusy question here
The FredJan 25, 2022
The should not seem “OK” - they should and must know. Keep in mind - not having this squared can have very unfortunate consequences for you. Google around - it should certainly be possible to find this well-described somewhere.
Ben GaloreJan 25, 2022
I did search and I must admit it's not clear at all :)
The FredJan 25, 2022
AC21 is an interesting topic that doesn’t receive much attention on this forum of mainly venting😉
no AdJan 25, 2022
i am interested in this question too
Ben GaloreJan 25, 2022
yes I found a source (lawfirm blog) that says that it works for an L visa , and L is intra company so not very far from an E. but that's weird
The FredJan 25, 2022
Can you share link on here?
Ben GaloreJan 25, 2022
could not find back the one mentioning L visa (which are the closest)
The FredJan 25, 2022
I can’t see this being the case if you are looking to port to another employer - as being in L will be entirely dependent on working for the petitioning employer.
The FredJan 25, 2022
Are you aware of the coming rule changes re premium processing? I would probably focus my efforts - and hopes - there🙂
Ben GaloreJan 25, 2022
I know :) I would too, could be a bit late , not before spring right ?
The FredJan 25, 2022
Who knows - and it seems still unclear what additional categories will be covered.
S BJan 25, 2022
I’m confused, so you are an E2 holder and have applied i140/1485 but neither approved yet? so you have been working for the e2 company so far but want to port to another company that’s not the company sponsoring your i140? is that correct?
Ben GaloreJan 25, 2022
yes
S BJan 25, 2022
you cannot work for any other company other than the e2 company until you receive either the GC or an EAD. secondly if you try to port prior to the i140 being approved that part starts all over again. fellow e2 holder here with approved i140 waiting i485
Ben GaloreJan 25, 2022
not it the i140 has been pending for more than 180 days
no AdJan 25, 2022
@SB what if my friend received my green card after a year, then go for another job same position. is that a problem
S BJan 25, 2022
@ben please check this I believe you are incorrect. As an e2 holder you cannot work for anyone else without an ead or gc. also if your i94 runs out you cannot work for the e2 company either until you get the ead
S BJan 25, 2022
@duy anh le that’s fine
Ben GaloreJan 25, 2022
i94 is aligned on the end of our E2 next year so we are good from that point. and I tend to believe like you but it's far from being clear. seems like AC21 is not used a lot
no AdJan 25, 2022
@SB even he hasn’t worked for the sponsor for a day?
S BJan 25, 2022
@ben the portability is really mainly used for H1b where they have had that for a while, they get sponsored to convert to GC and it takes so long they get another offer and the new company takes over.
Ben GaloreJan 25, 2022
that makes sense
S BJan 25, 2022
@duy anh le ok I misunderstood I thought you meant they had been working for a year with the gc for one company and wanted to switch. if they just received their greencard but then immedialty want to switch it will likely be revoked. 6 months is the unwritten rule on switching without porting so just switching job.
no AdJan 25, 2022
SB so he should stay at the job at least 6 months. But if he gets laid off?
S BJan 25, 2022
I think this is where you would have to prove lawful intent if it came up. this part I don’t know much about
The FredJan 25, 2022
Just to be clear - it is possible to port on an “approvable” but pending I-140
S BJan 26, 2022
@The Fred E2 visa holders cannot work for any other company other than the E2 company until they have an ead or gc
The FredJan 26, 2022
@Ben - take a look at this:
Ben GaloreJan 26, 2022
yes this is H1B oriented
The FredJan 26, 2022
Does anyone has any visibility as the expansion of premium processing? I.e., could all EB-1 categories end up becoming included?
Ben GaloreJan 26, 2022
https://www.fragomen.com/insights/united-states-regulation-to-expand-uscis-premium-processing-program-under-federal-review.html it's in the plan but they can phase it in different steps. i765 seems to be the first one
The FredJan 26, 2022
Thanks, Ben. And just to recap: You seem to suggest that it is possible to port, after I-485 pending 180 days, on an approvable I-140 and without EAD - if in L status?
Ben GaloreJan 26, 2022
The FredJan 26, 2022
Thanks - however, that makes it clear the requirement to have previously had an EAD. If you haven’t had one before then this doesn’t apply - and you won’t be able to work for the new employer until you have obtained it.
Ben GaloreJan 26, 2022
yes I think so too that's why I wonder why the lawyers say it's ok
S BJan 26, 2022
@Ben it sounds to me like your lawyer maybe has mainly had experience with other types of work visa such as h1b and doesn’t realise the limitations of the E2 and that it doesn’t involve an ead. . I assume it’s the sponsoring companies lawyer so that would make sense that they have never dealt with E2 possibly. This process is stressful enough (especially E2 to GC!) without the lawyers not giving the right advice
Ben GaloreJan 26, 2022
yes I think they forgot the visa part, but yet it's immigration lawyers so they should know. I have been the E2 visa for 3 years now, my understanding is that the challenge is not on the fact the E2 is not dual intent but more on proving EB1C. I haven't read the i140 , maybe I should. also to get the occupational code
